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ngrovotny's avatar

I certainly can't help with the technical part. I suspect the real problem is somehow an outgrowth of the whole "lies to children" issue.

Physicists learn how to describe the behavior of the universe by learning the MATH of it all. The math simply doesn't map very well to the concepts that monkey-brained creatures such as ourselves evolved to work with. We spent 4 billion years learning to dodge objects hurtling towards us, so classical mechanics is nice and intuitive, but once you start getting involved with the stuff that no one ever had any idea really *existed* until 150 years ago, we simply are not BUILT to get it.

I suspect the people who've devoted their lives to a field of study which ultimately cannot be described in any way which "makes intuitive sense" experience the same epistemological frustration that smart dabblers do, but they get through it because they know it WORKS. And they know with such certainty that "it works," and it was such a great deal of effort to get to that point of understanding, and when someone challenges them to reframe a set of concepts into more intuitive language, and they know they can't do it, they feel threatened.

Feynman used to say if you can't explain it to a child or a grandmother, you don't really understand it. And if he was right about that, that means no one "really" understands quantum physics. They just know how to do it, and they know it works. And that's good enough.

But it's got to be a major blow to the self-esteem, in some sense. If the people who understand physics "as well as anyone," and they STILL don't "really" understand according to Feynman's postulate, that must be extremely vexing.

I have a similar question about the wave model of light, rather like a few other members of the lunatic fringe who insist that for such a model to make any sense, there *must* be a medium involved.

Ultimately, doesn't this come down to some kind of "crisis of faith"? The laws of physics *must* be correct. Asking a pro to explain exactly why their confidence in those laws is different than religious faith in god is surely the quicker and simpler way to irritate them...

David Raynor's avatar

I'm not a physicist, but (you knew that "but" was coming a mile off, didn't you?) ... something that has always intrigued me is how in quantum theories the bosons operate over such different (to us) scales. You get the gluons "gluing" atomic nuclei together even though the positive charges should rip them apart. To our human senses, they are operating over unimaginably short distances and timescales. And then you get photons, which appear to be able to travel unimaginably large distances over millennia. Yet I would say that from the point of view* of the bosons themselves, they both take zero time to travel, and that therefore the distance over which they act is essentially zero. So perhaps the entangled photons are only experiencing action at a distance because to them distance is meaningless?

Perhaps our perception of the universe is wrong.

My 2p-worth. (we don't have cents where I live. I probably don't have sense, either.)

David

*(I said "I'm not a physicist", so allow me to anthropomorphise these fundamental particles and give them a point of view!)

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